LGPT/Piggy Tracker FAQ

September 5, 2016, 5:09 pm

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iLKke says:

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About

› what is LGPT/Piggy Tracker?

‹ what is LGPT/Piggy Tracker?

LittleGPTracker (a.k.a 'The piggy') is a music tracker optimised to run on portable game consoles.

Compatibility

› What platforms does piggy run on?

‹ What platforms does piggy run on?

It is currently running on Game Park's GP2x & Caanoo, PSP, Dingoo, Windows, Mac OSX (intel/ppc) & Linux (Debian).

› Which handheld unit is best for piggy?

‹ Which handheld unit is best for piggy?

The tl;dr version of the question is, it is a very close run thing, all the different options run piggy pretty well, they are all in 80 to 150 usd range and are all now fairly easy to get up and running (if you have XP for opendingux). If you want Midi out, get a GP2x, if you want a larger comfortable unit with a big screen get a PSP, if you want something which is ultra portable with a really long battery life, get a Dingoo.

More detailed version :

› PSP pros/cons

‹ PSP pros/cons

Pros
- PSP3000 Still in production.
- Sleep mode.
- Clean audio output.
- Large Screen, It really is rather lovely.
- Easy access to memory stick as PSP functions as USB mass storage.
- Easy to find,
- Very comfortable to use
Cons
- Needs Customer Firmware to install custom firmware before LPGT will work
- Larger and heavier than other options.
- Fairly short battery life, especially if you get an older model.
- No Midi out.
- Uses Sony Memory Sticks which are a shade more expensive.
- Headphone jack in a mildly annoying place (bottom left).
- PSP 1000 doesn't have TV out and has 32mb of RAM vs 64mb for PSP2000 and above.

› GP2X pros/cons

‹ GP2X pros/cons

Pros
- only hand held with MIDI OUT
- Uses standard AA batteries,
- Doesn't need custom firmware to get LGPT running, just unzip and go.
- Uses standard SD cards.
- Sensibly placed headphone jack on the back of the unit.
Cons
- Slow boot time
- Seems to go through batteries quickly.
- Increasingly hard to track down.
- Headphone jack is too small for a lot of cables.
- Thumbstick is very much a personal taste thing, I don't like it much, some people swear by it.

› Dingoo pros/cons

‹ Dingoo pros/cons

Pros
- GBMicroish formfactor, literally pocket size and bad ass.
- Charges via standard Mini USB jack
- very long battery life
- Sleep mode via Open Dingux
- Swap/paging file virtual RAM allowed in dingux, so 512MB of RAM possible
Cons
- Requires custom firmware to install LGPT
- Uses MiniSD (weird middle size SD card), minor con but worth bearing in mind.
- By far the least comfortable to use (bleo is a robot and has square hands so it doesn't bother him).
- Open dingux can be a huge pain to install (formatting the SD card correctly is not easy without XP).
- Possible slightly dodgy build quality on later models?

› Cannoo pros/cons

‹ Cannoo pros/cons

Pros
- Uses standard SD cards.
- Very easy to get running.
- Comfortable to use.
Cons
- Thumbstick isnt very strong (dropped my unit once and it broke) and as far as I can see it isn't a replaceable part.

› Which Dingoo variants run Dingux / Open Dingux?

‹ Which Dingoo variants run Dingux / Open Dingux?

The A-320 and the A-330 run Dingux / Open Dingux. The A-330e, the A-360 the A-380 don't. Other name / number variants of Dingoo almost certainly won't run Dingux / OpenDingux.

Files

› Where can I download piggy tracker?

‹ Where can I download piggy tracker?

You can download LGPT here.

› Where can I download piggy tracker tunes?

‹ Where can I download piggy tracker tunes?

You can download LGPT musics here.

› Where can I download piggy tracker project files?

‹ Where can I download piggy tracker project files?

You can download LGPT project files here.

Documentation

› Is there a changelog for Piggy?

‹ Is there a changelog for Piggy?

Yep! It is here.

› Where can I find the manual?

‹ Where can I find the manual?

The manual is here.

› where is the Piggy wiki?

‹ where is the Piggy wiki?

That would be here.

Network

› where can I communicate with other piggy tracker users?

‹ where can I communicate with other piggy tracker users?

This forum is a good place. There is also a mailing list and an IRC channel at #hexawe on esper.net

› Is Piggy on Twitter?

‹ Is Piggy on Twitter?

Yep!

› Is Piggy on Facebook?

‹ Is Piggy on Facebook?

Yep!

More information to come!

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December 3, 2016, 2:44 pm

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herr_prof says:

https://bbs.nextthing.co/t/littlegptrac … ed/9293/10
https://www.instagram.com/p/BNNVzdehMft … peterswimm

Things I got working:

Midi out!
Bluetooth control - youll need it!
Loads default projects and sends midi.

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December 25, 2016, 12:14 pm

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herr_prof says:

I realized the other day I can sideload PPSSPP on my iPhone to a unjailbroken device, but I cant get piggy to work. Has anyone gotten it working?

Happy Wavetable XMas

January 25, 2017, 3:03 pm

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breakphase says:

Found a nice zip on Reddit that needed a piggy fix, so I posted them on my site:

http://www.peterswimm.com/happy-wavetable-x-mas/

Enjoy!

Anyone got a recent w32 version of piggy they can share?

March 29, 2017, 12:58 pm

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herr_prof says:

I need to reinstall it on my new pc but the official sites been broken for weeks....

Issues with LGPT on OSX

April 15, 2017, 6:17 pm

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4ormal says:

Ran both the versions of lgpt in the rarchive on my mac but neither of them worked, they opened and closed instantly. Its a p old mac, running OSX 10.3.smth I think snow leopard? The mac install is basically clean so maybe there are libraries in missing, I tried looking through some support threads and searching but couldn't find anything. Any help would be much appreciated, trynna work on my old psp/canoo stuff but both of them are very inactive

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BLEO says:

I've tried changing buffer lengths and using asio but nothing seems to make a difference.
There seems to be a little cpu spike then a small glitch in the audio. I'm assuming these are underruns.
I can't figure out how to fix them.
How do I configure Piggy to work on my PC as well as it does on my PSP?

Thanks

gp2x screen fault?

June 16, 2016, 2:26 pm

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e.s.c. says:

turned on my gp2x after months of non-use, and the screen appears to have a fault; namely, there is a half inch white band down the right hand side, the image is pushed a half inch to the left and the screen image wobbles / flickers every few seconds.

I havent dropped the unit, fried the voltage regulator or bricked the unit via firmware updates, the model is an f-200.

Anyone know what might be causing this, commong gp2x screen issues or of any compatible screens that I could swap it out for?

Pissing me off as I just got my piggy to midi back after years and was planning on using the gp2x as my main sequencer..

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Compiling LGPT for PSP help

June 23, 2016, 1:12 pm

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yoyz2k says:

Could somebody help me out with compiling LGPT for PSP?
I'd like to experiment with the code and play around but I'm fairly n00b.
I got a hello world eboot to work using this tutorial:
http://www.consolespot.net/forums/psp-h … ygwin.html

I'm not sure where to go from here though.
Could somebody guide me through this process? or at least help point me in the direction I need to go.
I'm on a laptop running windows 10.

Questions about getting started with RaspPi and pig midi in general

June 24, 2016, 8:24 pm

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herr_prof says:

Here I am again, craving lgpt midi out on a portable device. I want, no I need, piggy midi out...I just love the idea of having such a small and easy program play samples and midi. I already have portable piggy in the form of a caanoo, so yeah, I want something specifically for midi. I have been thinking of either getting the smallest laptop I can find or getting a RaspPi, though I'll still buy your gp2x off of you

I've noticed that midi notes and samples do not play synced in windows piggy. It seems that the samples start just a little too late. What's your solution to this? Is there a way to delay the midi notes just enough?

I would like to know where to begin with the Pi. What OS, and how do I make it recognize a midi interface? Does anyone here use the Pi for piggy midi and care to she'd some light on how you arrived at something that works? Is there latency? herr_prof ?

Does anyone here even use lgpt for simultaneous sample and midi? If I can do this I will be living the piggy dream...

Oh, does anyone have experience with the umid mbook? Runs xp...

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Korea-UMID-mboo … 25816857f3

LGPT W32 MIDIDELAY setting has no effect. Bug?

August 2, 2016, 8:38 am

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Cartoon Bomb says:

MIDIDELAY is supposed to delay midi output by X milliseconds so that it lines up with the samples, but it appears to have no effect.

<MIDIDELAY value='500'/>

My config.xml:

<CONFIG>
  <FULLSCREEN value='YES'/>
  <SCREENMULT value='2'/>
  <AUDIOAPI value='MMSYSTEM'/>

<MIDIDELAY value='500'/>

<BACKGROUND value="22204A" />
    <FOREGROUND value="FFF18A" /> <!-- text and cursor in cursor -->
    <HICOLOR1 value="91FF75" /> <!-- row count in song screen -->
    <HICOLOR2 value="FF433D" /> <!-- cursor-->
  </CONFIG>

Any other Windows users try this and have the same problem?

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Byte.clone says:

Hi,

Extremely embarrassed to ask as I am sure there's answer somewhere in wiki, just can't find it. Anyway:

I haven't much used Piggy, so quite noobie, I have a gig coming, and am trying to (possibly) replace one program by using Piggy instead. What I need is simple: Live mode running 4-5 channels, and I would need only one row looping, not going to back line 1 from line 3 for instance, just looping the one row samples (muting, soloing etc), or using samples from several rows, one per column, but not so that looping goes back to line 1. I have tried to change one shot to loop to loopsync mode, but doesn't work (PSP 3000).

Thanks in advance ! Hope I described my problem, well, well.

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December 3, 2016, 2:44 pm

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herr_prof says:

https://bbs.nextthing.co/t/littlegptrac … ed/9293/10
https://www.instagram.com/p/BNNVzdehMft … peterswimm

Things I got working:

Midi out!
Bluetooth control - youll need it!
Loads default projects and sends midi.

PPSSPP for iOS? Anyone got it working?

December 25, 2016, 12:14 pm

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herr_prof says:

I realized the other day I can sideload PPSSPP on my iPhone to a unjailbroken device, but I cant get piggy to work. Has anyone gotten it working?

Happy Wavetable XMas

March 18, 2017, 4:04 pm

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Subway Sonicbeat says:

Found a nice zip on Reddit that needed a piggy fix, so I posted them on my site:

http://www.peterswimm.com/happy-wavetable-x-mas/

Enjoy!

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April 14, 2017, 9:44 am

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e.s.c. says:

I need to reinstall it on my new pc but the official sites been broken for weeks....

Issues with LGPT on OSX

April 15, 2017, 6:17 pm

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4ormal says:

Ran both the versions of lgpt in the rarchive on my mac but neither of them worked, they opened and closed instantly. Its a p old mac, running OSX 10.3.smth I think snow leopard? The mac install is basically clean so maybe there are libraries in missing, I tried looking through some support threads and searching but couldn't find anything. Any help would be much appreciated, trynna work on my old psp/canoo stuff but both of them are very inactive

Piggy on Linux

August 18, 2017, 6:22 am

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herr_prof says:

Done some research on this and ive still got a few unanswered questions. Wondered if anyone here might be able to help me out.

So Ive got it running on my arch linux laptop, the sound outputs fine (ran into problems with jack falling back to SDL but it sounds fine so not touching it for now)

Does midi sync work on linux? I cant find the answer online. Has anyone experienced this working and did you have to jump through a bunch of hoops? My plan is to sync with LSDJ through arduinoboy. I have a second laptop, would my time be better spent sticking windows on it and running LGPT from there?

Cheers

LGPT/Piggy Tracker FAQ

August 20, 2017, 7:26 am

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e.s.c. says:

Pig lovers everywhere, we now have our own forum! To celebrate an FAQ and a Sticky

About

› what is LGPT/Piggy Tracker?

‹ what is LGPT/Piggy Tracker?

LittleGPTracker (a.k.a 'The piggy') is a music tracker optimised to run on portable game consoles.

Compatibility

› What platforms does piggy run on?

‹ What platforms does piggy run on?

It is currently running on Game Park's GP2x & Caanoo, PSP, Dingoo, Windows, Mac OSX (intel/ppc) & Linux (Debian).

› Which handheld unit is best for piggy?

‹ Which handheld unit is best for piggy?

The tl;dr version of the question is, it is a very close run thing, all the different options run piggy pretty well, they are all in 80 to 150 usd range and are all now fairly easy to get up and running (if you have XP for opendingux). If you want Midi out, get a GP2x, if you want a larger comfortable unit with a big screen get a PSP, if you want something which is ultra portable with a really long battery life, get a Dingoo.

More detailed version :

› PSP pros/cons

‹ PSP pros/cons

Pros
- PSP3000 Still in production.
- Sleep mode.
- Clean audio output.
- Large Screen, It really is rather lovely.
- Easy access to memory stick as PSP functions as USB mass storage.
- Easy to find,
- Very comfortable to use
Cons
- Needs Customer Firmware to install custom firmware before LPGT will work
- Larger and heavier than other options.
- Fairly short battery life, especially if you get an older model.
- No Midi out.
- Uses Sony Memory Sticks which are a shade more expensive.
- Headphone jack in a mildly annoying place (bottom left).
- PSP 1000 doesn't have TV out and has 32mb of RAM vs 64mb for PSP2000 and above.

› GP2X pros/cons

‹ GP2X pros/cons

Pros
- only hand held with MIDI OUT
- Uses standard AA batteries,
- Doesn't need custom firmware to get LGPT running, just unzip and go.
- Uses standard SD cards.
- Sensibly placed headphone jack on the back of the unit.
Cons
- Slow boot time
- Seems to go through batteries quickly.
- Increasingly hard to track down.
- Headphone jack is too small for a lot of cables.
- Thumbstick is very much a personal taste thing, I don't like it much, some people swear by it.

› Dingoo pros/cons

‹ Dingoo pros/cons

Pros
- GBMicroish formfactor, literally pocket size and bad ass.
- Charges via standard Mini USB jack
- very long battery life
- Sleep mode via Open Dingux
- Swap/paging file virtual RAM allowed in dingux, so 512MB of RAM possible
Cons
- Requires custom firmware to install LGPT
- Uses MiniSD (weird middle size SD card), minor con but worth bearing in mind.
- By far the least comfortable to use (bleo is a robot and has square hands so it doesn't bother him).
- Open dingux can be a huge pain to install (formatting the SD card correctly is not easy without XP).
- Possible slightly dodgy build quality on later models?

› Cannoo pros/cons

‹ Cannoo pros/cons

Pros
- Uses standard SD cards.
- Very easy to get running.
- Comfortable to use.
Cons
- Thumbstick isnt very strong (dropped my unit once and it broke) and as far as I can see it isn't a replaceable part.

› Which Dingoo variants run Dingux / Open Dingux?

‹ Which Dingoo variants run Dingux / Open Dingux?

The A-320 and the A-330 run Dingux / Open Dingux. The A-330e, the A-360 the A-380 don't. Other name / number variants of Dingoo almost certainly won't run Dingux / OpenDingux.

Files

› Where can I download piggy tracker?

‹ Where can I download piggy tracker?

You can download LGPT here.

› Where can I download piggy tracker tunes?

‹ Where can I download piggy tracker tunes?

You can download LGPT musics here.

› Where can I download piggy tracker project files?

‹ Where can I download piggy tracker project files?

You can download LGPT project files here.

Documentation

› Is there a changelog for Piggy?

‹ Is there a changelog for Piggy?

Yep! It is here.

› Where can I find the manual?

‹ Where can I find the manual?

The manual is here.

› where is the Piggy wiki?

‹ where is the Piggy wiki?

That would be here.

Network

› where can I communicate with other piggy tracker users?

‹ where can I communicate with other piggy tracker users?

This forum is a good place. There is also a mailing list and an IRC channel at #hexawe on esper.net

› Is Piggy on Twitter?

‹ Is Piggy on Twitter?

Yep!

› Is Piggy on Facebook?

‹ Is Piggy on Facebook?

Yep!

More information to come!

Raspberry Pi setups???

September 6, 2017, 1:26 am

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mackemint says:

Has anyone made a pi machine for the explicit use of LGPT? I'm thinking of getting the new B+ model for it.

I would also like to know how easy it would be to use live with a Pi. I just feel like spending $300+ on a GP2X is less cost effective than buying a $35 Pi with roughly $100 of add ons.

Thanks!
-Sam